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Episode 4: There is that old saying “what you don’t know can’t hurt you.” But we’ve already shown that isn’t true. In fact, not only can it hurt you, but it can keep you stuck in that hurt – UNTIL you unlock this “secret…”

Joshua and Dr.Wayne delve into the X Y Z Model of the universe and how it can lead to us being stuck and not reaching our goals. Do you know everything you don’t know? Do you know why that can keep you from unlocking your unlimited power? Tune in to hear what to do with this model and how applying it can get you into a powerful state and moving towards your big goals again.

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Transcript

Dr.Wayne
0:00

Welcome to the post pandemic freedom show brought to you by Bold Molders. I’m Dr. Wayne Buckhanan, here with

Joshua
0:07

Joshua Shafran, fellow Bold Molder.

Dr.Wayne
0:10

And we are continuing our series on unpacking the big picture ideas that are here as part of the path to becoming a Bold Molder. I know last time we talked about the three blind spots, where are we going with this next idea that?

Joshua
0:29

Well, I’m sure people have heard in one way, shape or form the concept of there’s things that we know, there’s things that we know that we don’t know. And then there’s things that we don’t know that we don’t know, right. And the major categories and and when I first heard this concept it was 30 years ago, and 25 years ago, at any rate, maybe maybe close to 30 years ago.

Joshua
0:53

And the way that that it was explained to me was that all the stuff that we don’t know that we don’t know, that’s where all of the miracles, the magic lives in our life that we can create, what we want to create and live the life that we want to live is in all of the stuff that we don’t know that we don’t know.

Joshua
1:10

And I don’t know whether this has been defunct or not. But the common story or cliche back then was to explain this was by all known laws of aerodynamics a bumblebee can’t fly. Yet, somebody forgot to tell the bumblebee that it couldn’t fly. And so there it is. So either a miracle is happening, or the bumblebee knew something about aerodynamics that we didn’t know.

Joshua
1:40

Now, I don’t know whether that’s been defunct or not. But the concept still holds true that there’s a whole bunch of stuff that we don’t know that we don’t know. And I like to look at it. Now, after teaching it that way, for such a long time, I come at it from a different perspective from from the outside in. So let’s go back over to our, our makeshift whiteboard here with my iPad. And

Dr.Wayne
2:09

Yeah, I was definitely hearing the echoes of the unconscious in those unknown unknowns.

Joshua
2:16

Right?

Dr.Wayne
2:16

Oh, wait.

Joshua
2:17

And actually, we’ll pull it all together and wrap it up so that the the three blind spots along with the the unconscious, making the unconscious conscious as well as how all of this kind of falls into play, and how it relates like, why should you even care is because this is all about living that life that you’ve been called to live that you want to live that you haven’t been living that you for whatever purpose, you know? Maybe you’re scared, maybe you’re just feeling stuck or whatever, that you can live that life of freedom on your terms, however you choose to have it be so just my favorite quote is “until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you call it fate,” Carl Jung.

Joshua
3:07

So let’s look at this from the great unwashed masses. Now I know that this is hard to see. And I did that on purpose that there’s and this is a dotted line here. But this circle represents all of the infinite possibilities, the infinite, omnipresent all that is the, the the all of everything, right? So this is all of the unknown unknown unknowns, right? And if I could write better, that would be great.

Joshua
3:46

But basically, what’s going on? Is that the all of everything if we if we think about the entire universe, you can call it God. You can call it source energy. But all that is that all that is now I made this look like it’s a container, but it really isn’t, right? Because it’s all of everything. There’s nothing that isn’t a part of the All That Is that isn’t infinite and omnipresent. And guess what? It’s always expanding. It’s always growing. Right? So it’s in everything, it is everything. It’s all of everything.

Dr.Wayne
4:27

Even if you think you know it, guess what? The universe is expanding. And there’s more to know that you didn’t know that you didn’t know.

Joshua
4:35

Right? So all of that that last group of stuff that we’re talking about the stuff that you don’t even know that you don’t know, that’s this, right. It’s the infinite possibilities. It’s the all that is and it’s always growing, it’s always expanding. There isn’t anything that it isn’t.

Joshua
4:51

Then, on top of that, we have a projection of the stuff that we know that we don’t know, right? Well, it’s impossible for us as from this perspective, perspective, to interpret, to understand to absorb all that is from that higher perspective, because we’re within the perspective, right.

Joshua
5:12

So we by definition have to take a smaller piece of the puzzle, we have to take a smaller piece of it. So we project onto the screen, so to speak. And if we call this a screen, then we’re projecting this piece onto it. And this represents the stuff that we believe that we know that there’s some stuff that we don’t know, you know what, let’s just do this piece, and then it’ll start to fall into place.

Joshua
5:40

So this represents, and maybe I’ll change the color now. This represents the stuff that we know that we know. So notice, out of all the infinite and omnipresent possibilities of all of everything that that is what it is, then we have the stuff that we chunk it down even more, a little bit more into this area. Right. So we take a small little sliver of all that is, and then within that, we take a small little sliver of that. And that’s what we know.

Joshua
6:16

That’s what we’re comfortable with. That’s what we’re familiar with. That’s what we understand to be the our, our reality, right? But does that change any of this? Does that change any of this? Does that change the fact that this is expanding outwards? Does that change any of that? Does it change that it’s infinite? And that is, as it always is constantly expanding? That the instant that it expands? The all of everything includes that? Right?

Joshua
6:48

Does does our little segment of that change any of the things going on outside of it? No, right? It still exists. But we’re now living in a very restricted, constricted point of view or a place of? Well, limitation, in because we are trying to figure out or live within that identity. But who we are is right here, it’s within this area, we’re willing to accept that there’s some stuff that we know that we don’t know, like when we’re aware of it consciously. But here is all of the unconscious Ness. Right? The unconscious awareness of all the infinite possibilities that are always expanding and always present there. What’s your two cents on this Wayne?

Dr.Wayne
7:45

I mean, it makes sense that we’ve got parts we know, or at least think we know, and parts that we’re aware of that we don’t know. And then all the rest of it’s out there. It’s anything that’s not gray or green is definitely in that unconscious. So I don’t usually take the woowoo cosmological approach. But let’s keep going because I think that you’ve got the more down to earth aspect coming up here.

Joshua
8:15

Well, basically, what this represents is the Z is the infinite and omnipresent possibilities, the ununknown, the unknown unknowns. Y represents the stuff that we know that we don’t know but it’s based on the stuff that we know that we know, within our reality right there. So if we break it down in terms of just on a general level, X is what we believe is is the bullseye here, is within there is what we perceive, that we know or we know.

Joshua
9:01

And these are what I call the Boss Fred Rules, or the the Fred stories, all of these unconscious condition stories that are running us that are are are sets of stories and scripts and rules that we live by. And this spot is what life looks like for us. In our perspective. That’s reality. That’s what we believe is reality.

Joshua
9:25

Then we’ve got the projected, known unknowns. In other words, this we’re projecting on top of that, we’re projecting out that this is the stuff that we know that we don’t know, but it’s always from within the framework of what we know that we know. Right? So it’s always from that perspective, which means that by definition, the stuff that we’re looking for that’s that’s we think will make the difference is based upon what we believe is the truth of the absolute unpenetrable, unbending, absolute reality of what is for us right now.

Joshua
10:07

But in reality, it’s such a limited piece of the truth of all that is that we, we’ve decided we through the rules through the scripts, that is what it is, right? And then the Z is the objective reality of the truth, the infinite and omnipresent, unknown unknowns, which is that infinite means that it is everything and omnipresent means that it’s in everything. It’s the potential.

Joshua
10:36

Now, if you’re not particularly interested in the spiritual aspects of things or the more woowoo aspects, that’s fine. There’s just a whole lot of potential, that what we believe to be true is not ironclad. Because the truth is immutable. The truth is, indivisible, you can’t you can’t break it up into smaller pieces. It’s the whole, so that the only way that you can look at the whole is from the perspective of Z. Right?

Joshua
11:07

So if we we break it down into more concrete terms, if what we believe is the issue, or the problem, then based upon what we believe we’re trying to accomplish, what we’re trying to do and what we think those challenges are. If we believe that it is this, then based on that we’re going to do Y activities. We’re going to look for solutions that are based on what we think the problem is. But what if the problem that we’re trying to solve isn’t really this problem. It’s this problem.

Joshua
11:50

And in fact, the act of looking to solve the problem that we believe it is, by doing this, that that these Y actions, is actually making the Z problem more painful for us. Now, I explained this in a different way in the previous episodes, when we talked about the graph, and we the ones behind me on the whiteboard, and the one that’s also there, and how the three blind spots, but that’s exactly what’s going on.

Joshua
12:22

It’s we think the problem is X. And so we’re doing Y things and you know what to solve for X, and it makes good sense. I mean, if the problem really was X, that it makes good sense that we’re looking for the answers in those areas of Y. Unfortunately, the real issue is Z, it’s completely outside of what we thought it was, and trying to solve the wrong problem.

Joshua
12:52

IE, what’s in our comfort zone, what’s in that constricted space, that limited space, is actually making it making the pain worse, making the suffering worse, making it harder to see the real root cause and the real problem and treat the cause and cure the root cause of the problem rather than a symptom, which is what we’ve been doing up to this point. Now that’s in a general sense, obviously, we’ve got to break it down to the specifics.

Joshua
13:21

But I’m now have brought this to you from three or four different directions because it is such a well it’s an unconscious scenario to to grasp a hold of, and hopefully coming at it from different angles will give you know each person a different way. But hearing it from a different angle will hopefully allow it to make sense in a different way. What do you got to say about that?

Dr.Wayne
13:54

Yeah, I’m reminded of the whole parable of the man under the lamppost looking for his lost keys and someone comes along and says “oh, you know what’s going on?”, “I’m looking for my keys.” “Oh, great. Let me help you. Where were you when you lost them?” “Oh, over there.” “What?! Why are you looking here?” “Well, the light’s better here.” So you know that sort of the keys maybe over in Z but I’m gonna stand over here and X because the lights better I’m more familiar with this.

Joshua
14:23

Yeah, say it again. I’ll I’ll point.

Dr.Wayne
14:30

Hopefully they can follow along…

Joshua
14:32

Yeah, I think you nailed it. So that’s that’s my my two cents and I know that that was rather heady and and from I don’t know what to call it. It’s not wooie-wooie so much as it’s just a big concept to grasp.

Joshua
14:55

And the reason it’s a big concept to grasp is that we’re not God, we’re not. We’re looking at it from our perspective within the all of everything. And from from our perspective, but we need to understand that perception is subjective, it is not objective, it is not the whole thing. And it is not the only thing. So we need to know that it’s suspect, and that by suspect, meaning that our filters are creating what we’re allowing ourselves to look for, and allowing ourselves to actually see. And we’ll get into the tune-look-see aspects of things in a future episode. So I’m doing a little teaser for you there.

Dr.Wayne
15:44

So we’ll, we’ll tee that up. But then in the meantime, what are folks doing today to really apply this concept?

Joshua
15:51

Look for areas of your life where you you see the XYZ aspects, going. Where, you know, how have you limited yourself, based upon what you believed is the, you know, your known knowns, the things that you know that you know? And then how did that, then direct you? What were the things that you that you allowed yourself to look for? And how is that limited?

Joshua
16:18

And was there some potential, you know, was there a situation that you could see in your life where you, you know, it’s like, going to the mailbox with a blindfold on, like, I go to the mailbox every day, it’s not, but suddenly, I put a blindfold on, and I lose my confidence, I lose the certainty I get, you know, there’s lots of doubt because I don’t know where I’m going.

Joshua
16:39

Well, you know, was there some times where you, you resisted that, because it was easier to stay in the area of the known knowns? And just observe it. Just look at it, you know, and have it not mean anything. Have it not define you. Have it say, like, …

Joshua
16:56

Grab your white lab coat and pretend you’re a scientist and your clipboard and say, you know, the things … isn’t that interesting. And just look at it as it’s just something that happened, it didn’t say anything about me as a person or anything of that nature and just notice it.

Joshua
17:13

And I find that when I write things down, in a journal, on a yellow legal pad, or on my iPad … When I write it down, that it gives me the opportunity to get objective with it. Because at first when I’m writing it, it’s just I’m spilling it out. And it’s, I mean, in the moment, in the experience, I’m just like, it’s just happening. And I I’m very subjective, I’m very much in the in the moment, and this is, this is truth for me.

Joshua
17:43

But the act of writing it down, now I can look at it and say, well, is that true or whatever? And now I can evaluate it and look at it and say, what were the feelings? Or what was the emotions that got triggered for that in me.

Joshua
17:55

And let you in on a big tip here: anytime you have a strong emotional reaction, whether that be quote unquote, positive or quote unquote, negative, that’s a sure sign that you’ve got some joy to look at in terms of the unconscious conditioning, that the reason why you’re having a strong emotional reaction is because of unconscious conditioning. I promise you that that’s why you’re there and you’re automatically reacting to it. Because it’s, you’re reacting to your reactions. That’s where the emotion comes from. It’s it comes from the juice that gets created through that. And that will we’ll be unpacking in much more depth in a much future episode down the road a piece.

Dr.Wayne
18:53

Yeah. All right. So, as usual, you can start with your past, and notice events that happened before and try and find those XYZ’s where you thought it was X so you did Y, but really, maybe it was Z and the Y was actually making things worse.

Joshua
19:08

Right. How did it — how did the actions that we were doing to solve for it that made good sense if that was really the issue? How did it make the problem be more intensified?

Joshua
19:21

And, you know, if this is too general for you, look for areas where you feel like you can’t win for losing look for areas like like, “See, I knew that was going to happen!” I just can’t, I can’t seem to get the results that I want to get and where you’re experiencing the snapback effect where you’re you’re bouncing backwards. That’s where you’re going to find those XYZ’s is in those areas.

Joshua
19:54

Because then the act of doing that when you’re now you’re whether you call it self beat up like I do and Wayne does and “stupid, stupid, stupid, you know, how can I do that?” Oh, you know, and why did I spend so long digging? The What was I doing as a kid digging that mailbox post hole? You know, what was that wasting all that time on? Well, that’s a form of beat up, right. But that’s the results of seeing that. So I think that you’ll know I’ve talked myself right into a point where I don’t know what my point was.

Dr.Wayne
20:26

Well, and I want to riff off that slightly and go, even if you can just shift from being upset, and still say the same words, but come at it from a different attitude of say, curiosity, right? Because that’s what I was going “whoa,” hearing you say those words that I’d said earlier about the digging the posthole, I’m like, that wasn’t the attitude I came, I could totally hear how those words would be experienced differently. If it was mad at myself, it was very much like, what was I doing? That’s curious, you know, just curiosity being applied into it can shift things so much. So…

Joshua
21:03

And that’s a great lesson for like — I projected that onto the situation, based upon my unconscious, my unconscious conditioning. Right. So now we know where Joshua’s got some some issues. Right?

Joshua
21:20

And, and one of the reasons why Wayne’s trained himself to become curious about those things, is because of the work that he’s done, and that he’s chosen a when-then to so instead of whatever was that because curiosity serves him. And if I could be so bold as to offer a piece of insight that may or may not be true for you that you could try on or not. Is, is that a pattern to avoid? That that is being curious, does that let you then? Oh, isn’t that you know, like? Oh, like, like, I used to do that. Yeah. But does that give you permission to stay doing that?

Joshua
22:05

Or is that a, you know? Or is that truly a you know, because sometimes I think we can get stuck. I know I can in? Not? Like, I’ve made progress. I feel good. But now, I really like I don’t want to go the the next the next step. Yeah, I want to hang out here a little bit. I’m not where I want to be yet. But it’s a lot better than I used to be. So let me let me feel good about that, which is good. But the point is to get to the next level where you really want to be.

Dr.Wayne
22:38

Yeah, and I actually was wondering, as you were asking, you know, it’s filling in the blanks, as you were saying, “Can I offer” and I’m like, what if it’s just to, you know, I can go into curiosity rather than do the work, which is where you got eventually I’m like, oh, yeah, look at that. That’s hmm… I will ponder that and be curious about it. And maybe do it.

Joshua
23:01

Or you could just say, “Hey, isn’t that cool? Yeah, yeah, I did that. So what I did that if it’s true, yeah, that’s true. Yes, I have done that is a way to avoid doing the work. Okay. Cool. What’s next?” You know, I mean, now, does this. Does it mean anything? Only if I say so. So plenty of good stuff.

Joshua
23:26

Until next time. See ya! Oh, yeah, sorry.